Software Engineer II Bank of AmericaSoftware Engineer IISeattle, WashingtonKey responsibilities of the job include ensuring that software is developed to meet functional, non-functional and compliance requirements, coding solutions, unit testing, and ensuring the solution can be integrated successfully into the overall application/system with clear, robust, and well-tested interfaces. We value the unique perspectives individuals bring from all backgrounds and career paths - whether shaped by military service, community college education, or a wide range of work and life experiences.
Senior Site Reliability Engineer I AxonSenior Site Reliability Engineer ISeattle, WA$134,250–$214,800 / yearWe run a polyglot datastore environment: relational databases, wide column stores, document stores, caches, and queues and we're building the self service platform that helps every team at Axon pick the right tool and use it well. The actual base pay is dependent upon many factors, such as: level, function, training, transferable skills, work experience, business needs, geographic market, and often a combination of all these factors.
AutoDesk Engineer Yantran LLCAutoDesk EngineerRedmond, WAWe are seeking a highly skilled Senior Autodesk Developer to drive the customization, automation, and optimization of our engineering design platform. You will design, build, and maintain custom API layers, plugins, and web services to connect our Autodesk environment with enterprise systems.
Field Engineer - Emergency Call Handling Motorola SolutionsField Engineer - Emergency Call HandlingSeattle, WARemoteFull timeThe Field Engineer is ultimately accountable for the system being implemented based on the site design specifics, including the on-site configuration, testing, cut, and post-cut support for Motorola's on-premise and cloud-hosted ECH solutions. We deploy and support products such as Emergency Call Handling, 911 Equipment, Computer Aided Dispatch, Records Management Systems, Jail Management Systems and Mobile Data Computing, among other offerings.
Data Engineer & Database Administrator Saicon Consultants IncData Engineer & Database AdministratorBellevue, WAFrequently moves boxes with equipment weighing up to 25lbs across the building and/or to other offsite buildings for various project needs. While performing the duties of this job, the employee in this position frequently communicates with other co-workers/clients who have inquiries about the various projects and other needs.
Staff Software Engineer, Technical Lead, Lakebase Manager LBM Databricks IncStaff Software Engineer, Technical Lead, Lakebase Manager LBMBellevue, WA$182,400–$247,000 / yearAs the Technical Lead on the Lakebase Manager (LBM) team, you will drive, build, and operate the central control plane that owns the core logic for Lakebase: database creation and deletion, wake-up and suspend, maintaining computes on hot standby, HA failover, and more. More than 10,000 organizations worldwide - including Comcast, Condé Nast, Grammarly, and over 50% of the Fortune 500 - rely on the Databricks Data Intelligence Platform to unify and democratize data, analytics and AI.
Staff Software Developer Engineer in Test Boeing Employees Credit UnionStaff Software Developer Engineer in TestWA$141,800–$173,300 / yearMinimum seven years of hands-on experience with programming and scripting languages such as C#, Python, or JavaScript/Typescript (or other languages) performing software development/QA in a polyglot environment, including scripting to support performance frameworks like JMeter. Lead Test Strategy & Execution: Develop inclusive, scalable test strategies, automation frameworks, and performance tools that empower engineering teams across web, mobile, and data environments.
NewStaff Software Engineer - Electricity Markets GE Vernova IncStaff Software Engineer - Electricity MarketsBellevue, WARemote$132,000–$198,000 / yearGE Vernova Inc. or its affiliates (collectively or individually, "GE Vernova") sponsor certain employee benefit plans or programs GE Vernova reserves the right to terminate, amend, suspend, replace, or modify its benefit plans and programs at any time and for any reason, in its sole discretion. GE Vernova is seeking a highly experienced technical leader to join a skilled team of 8-15 engineers responsible for the development, enhancement, and support of a large, highly available Electricity Market Management System (MMS).
Senior Software Engineer Kymeta CorpSenior Software EngineerRedmond, WA$140,000–$190,000 / yearCompensation packages are based on a variety of factors unique to each candidate, including but not limited to: skill set, years and depth of experience, certifications, and geography. Kymeta solutions serve government, military, maritime, transport, and public safety clients worldwide, providing uninterrupted connectivity and spatial intelligence anywhere, anytime.
Staff Software Engineer - FoundationDB AppleStaff Software Engineer - FoundationDBSeattle, WAIn addition to simulation, you will help drive the full cycle of efficiency improvement for the product, including setting up test cluster environments, benchmarking, visualizing results, tracing, debugging, and making code changes. **Role Number:** 200664497-3337 **Summary** Apple is looking for an experienced database Software Engineer to help develop the next generation of Apple's cloud services.
Senior Software Engineer, Apple Services Engineering AppleSenior Software Engineer, Apple Services EngineeringSeattle, WARole Number:** 200664943-3337 **Summary** We are looking for an experienced Software Engineer to help develop the next-generation of Apple's cloud services infrastructure. We are a world-class team who has a real passion for engineering and delivering high quality services to Apple's customers.
Software Engineer, Apple Services Engineering AppleSoftware Engineer, Apple Services EngineeringSeattle, WARole Number:** 200664944-3337 **Summary** We are looking for an experienced Software Engineer to help develop the next-generation of Apple's cloud services infrastructure. We are a world-class team who has a real passion for engineering and delivering high quality services to Apple's customers.
NewSenior Platform Reliability Engineer Grow TherapySenior Platform Reliability EngineerSeattle, WA$182,000–$250,000 / yearThis is a hybrid role with the expectation to work onsite from our San Francisco, NYC, or Seattle hub location three days per week (Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday) and travel 2–3 times per year (e.g., company and department offsites).BenefitsComprehensive Mental & Physical Health Support: No‑cost access to therapy through the Grow platform, weekly flexible hours for self‑care (Mental Health Mornings/Afternoons) and memberships to leading wellness apps (such as One Medical, Headspace, and Talkspace).Extra Perks: Pet insurance discounts, commuter benefits, and global travel assistance.
Detection and Response Software Engineer | AppleDetection and Response Software Engineer |Seattle, WAIn this role, you'll design and implement engineering solutions that automate investigation workflows, enrich alerts with contextual data, enable rapid incident response, and leverage cutting-edge technologies including GenAI to transform how we approach detection and response. **Weekly Hours:** 40 **Role Number:** 200655126-3337 **Summary** The Apple Services Engineering (ASE) Detection team is responsible for building advanced detections that protect approximately three-quarters of Apple's systems and services.
Senior Software Engineer, Product Foundations MetropolisSenior Software Engineer, Product FoundationsSeattle, WA$150,000–$200,000 / yearWorking alongside highly technical hypernerds who live and breathe distributed systems, performance optimization, developer productivity, and reliability engineering, you will collaborate across multiple technical teams including Application Development, Infrastructure, and our Advanced Technologies group to deliver remarkable, checkout-free real-world experiences. Design and build the core services of Metropolis Web Services, the composable platform that will power multiple mobility businesses including IAM, notifications, message processing, and other critical infrastructure components.
Principal AI Software Engineer NICE SystemsPrincipal AI Software EngineerSeattle, WAExperience building agentic coding tools, AI agent frameworks, or developer-facing SDKs/APIs (Claude Agent SDK, OpenAI Agents SDK). (NASDAQ: NICE) software products are used by 25,000+ global businesses, including 85 of the Fortune 100 corporations, to deliver extraordinary customer experiences, fight financial crime and ensure public safety.
Job Title - DevOps Engineer Location: - Seattle, WA/ 3 Days Onsite and 2 Days Remote Dur Georgia Tek SystemsJob Title - DevOps Engineer Location: - Seattle, WA/ 3 Days Onsite and 2 Days Remote DurSeattle, WARemoteWe are seeking an experienced, self-motivated Senior Engineer who is technically very strong with strong Linux background, with deep knowledge in micro services, backend storage design, NoSQL database, distributed systems and very good troubleshooting skills. In this role, person will be responsible for setting up monitoring dashboards, alerts, maintaining production systems, deploying code in Production, monitoring alerts, resolving issues, and leading production troubleshooting calls.
Job Opportunity for Cloud Systems Engineer / Cloud Systems Architect with our Federal Client Artech LLCJob Opportunity for Cloud Systems Engineer / Cloud Systems Architect with our Federal ClientHome, MN$80–$85 / hourThis role requires a highly experienced cloud professional with deep expertise in Google Cloud Platform (GCP), enterprise architecture, cloud migration strategies, automation, security, and large-scale application deployment. The ideal candidate will possess extensive experience in cloud architecture, cloud-native technologies, infrastructure modernization, application integration, security, compliance, automation, and enterprise-scale solution delivery.
Senior Software Engineer II- Streaming And Durability CompassSenior Software Engineer II- Streaming And DurabilitySeattle, WA$176,000–$196,100 / yearDesign and operate the database and caching fleet (RDS/Aurora PostgreSQL, ElastiCache Redis/ValKey, DynamoDB) that underpins Compass's core products, making decisions about replication, failover, capacity, and engine strategy that affect every team in the company. Build multi-tenant data isolation into Compass's data layer from the ground up, shipping SDKs in Go, Java, and Python that enforce tenant-safe access patterns so product engineers can move fast without risking cross-tenant data exposure.
IT Systems Engineer IV (EA) Crane CoIT Systems Engineer IV (EA)Lynnwood, WA$152,798.20–$177,167.20 / yearJob Summary: The IT Systems Engineer IV is an individual technical contributor who works with limited supervision and is responsible for designing, architecting and maintaining complex Crane A&E Product Lifecycle Management (PLM) solutions. Located in the epicenter of United States aviation manufacturing, our Crane Aerospace & Electronics Lynnwood, Wash., facility delivers industry-leading aerospace & defense power, sensing and fluid solutions.
IT Systems Engineer IV (Ea) Crane Co.IT Systems Engineer IV (Ea)Lynnwood, WA$152,798.20–$177,167.20 / yearJob Summary: The IT Systems Engineer IV is an individual technical contributor who works with limited supervision and is responsible for designing, architecting and maintaining complex Crane A&E Product Lifecycle Management (PLM) solutions. Located in the epicenter of United States aviation manufacturing, our Crane Aerospace & Electronics Lynnwood, Wash., facility delivers industry-leading aerospace & defense power, sensing and fluid solutions.
Staff Software Engineer, Storage Platform Robinhood Markets IncStaff Software Engineer, Storage PlatformBellevue, WA$230,000–$270,000 / yearWe own relational (Postgres/Aurora), key-value (DynamoDB), and caching systems, along with the SDKs, control plane automation, and data plane services that enable safe and reliable access at scale. You'll lead complex distributed systems initiatives such as horizontal sharding, proxy-based query routing, connection pooling, and cross-shard transactions.
Data Engineer- Seattle WA Georgia Tek SystemsData Engineer- Seattle WASeattle, WAThis role requires a versatile technologist who can work across NoSQL, relational, caching, and streaming technologies while applying a software engineering mindset to build scalable and efficient data solutions. Integrate data from multiple sources including relational databases, caching layers, and streaming platforms (Kafka, Spark, etc.).
Systems Engineer - Early Career Nscale ASSystems Engineer - Early CareerSeattle, WA$80,000–$130,000 / yearAs a System Engineer, you will work alongside experienced Systems, Network, and Platform Engineers to build tools and automation that improve operational efficiency, infrastructure visibility, and engineering productivity. You will gain exposure to high-performance compute, networking, cloud infrastructure, and distributed systems while developing practical software solutions that support real-world production environments.
Agentic AI Engineer - Healthcare AI Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu LtdAgentic AI Engineer - Healthcare AIWA$134,500–$265,100 / yearAs an Agentic AI Engineer, you will design, build, and operationalize the LLM- and SLM-powered systems behind real healthcare decisioning - the reasoning, orchestration, retrieval, memory, and control layers that let intelligent agents operate reliably across the hardest decisions in the industry: clinical reasoning, prior authorization and claims integrity, care navigation, and the operational workflows that run across payers, providers, and life sciences. Deloitte brings together AI researchers, modeling and platform engineers, architects, clinical and domain specialists, and product leaders to build, deploy, and operate verticalized AI systems across software, data, models, and cloud infrastructure - engineered for one of the most complex operating environments in the world.
CAE Project Engineer, EPC Procurement Oversight TerraPowerCAE Project Engineer, EPC Procurement OversightBellevue, WashingtonTerraPower is seeking to hire highly motivated and forward-thinking professionals who are interested in focusing on advanced nuclear reactor research and development and influencing change within the nuclear power landscape and bringing forward the critical production of medical isotopes. This role manages CAE software integration scope, schedules, resources, and technical deliverables while serving as the interface between design engineering, licensing, and the CAE technical team.
Senior Software Development Engineer- Receiver Products Remitly, Inc.Senior Software Development Engineer- Receiver ProductsSeattle, WAThis is a strong fit for an engineer who wants real ownership: you''ll drive the technical design for significant pieces of the receiver product surface, working closely with a Principal Engineer, your engineering manager, and product partners, while mentoring other engineers and raising the bar for the team''s technical practices. As a Senior Software Development Engineer (SDE3) on the Receiver Products team, you''ll design and build core services for a new generation of financial products aimed at the people who receive remittances.
Staff Software Engineer Ford Motor CoStaff Software EngineerSeattle, WA$132,800–$250,800 / yearThe Ford Pro Intelligence (FPI) Telematics team is looking for a strong Staff Software Engineer to build web applications and services that result in useful, reliable, secure products for our customers. Raise the Bar: Raise the engineering bar within the organization by proposing internal tooling, frameworks and processes to better improve efficiency and service quality.
Senior AI Engineer - SFL Scientific Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu LtdSenior AI Engineer - SFL ScientificWA$128,000–$252,500 / yearOur engineering team leverages emerging technologies and best practices across data security, documentation, cloud services and engineering architecture to create solutions and products that address complex issues and business problems faced by global organizations. Leverage advanced technical skills in modern data architecture, data science engineering, data transformation, and management of structured and unstructured data sources using cloud computing or on-prem technologies.
NewAutomation Engineer II idd aerospaceAutomation Engineer IIRedmond, WAQUALIFICATIONS Bachelor's degree in Computer Science, Mechatronics, Mechanical, Electrical Engineering, or related technical field.3–6 years of professional experience in automation, manufacturing engineering, or robotics.2+ years experience with Python or C#.2+ years experience with SolidWorks or equivalent CAD software.1+ year on‑the‑job experience in a manufacturing or production floor environment. Experience programming automation / robotic platforms (ROS, ROS2, or equivalent).Experience characterizing and evaluating electromechanical systems.1+ year experience with SQL or database querying (preferred).Must be a U.S. Person per ITAR/EAR requirements.
NewFull-Stack Software Engineer Accretive Technology GroupFull-Stack Software EngineerSeattle, WARemoteFull timeWorking closely with Product, Operations, and fellow Engineering teams, you'll design, build, deploy, and maintain scalable applications that support our core member account experiences, contributing across the full software development lifecycle. A reasonable, good-faith estimate of the minimum and maximum salary pay for this position is $131,347 to $177,704 as a Software Engineer III or $154,830 to $209,475 as a Senior Software Engineer.
Staff Software Development Engineer CVS Health CorpStaff Software Development EngineerWA$106,605–$284,280 / yearFurthermore, the Staff Engineer role includes closely working with a team of engineers to drive delivery excellence, partner with business and other IT leaders to build digital assets, provide expert level support to resolve complex issues and provide RCA, identify gaps in systems in current digital eco system and provide solutions to enhance overall performance. CVS Health Digital is looking for hands-on, passionate people who want to join a high energy and growing team to make a difference in customers' lives and who want to be on the forefront of digital innovation that aims to reinvent what a pharmacy and a health care company can be in the digital world.
Staff+ Software Engineer, Caching AnthropicStaff+ Software Engineer, CachingSeattle, WA$320,000–$485,000 / yearThe Caching team is part of the Databases organization and owns the systems that keep Anthropic's hottest paths fast and correct: a managed Redis fleet, client libraries used across the company, and CDC-driven cache invalidation that solves one of distributed systems' hardest problems the right way. This research continues many of the directions our team worked on prior to Anthropic, including: GPT-3, Circuit-Based Interpretability, Multimodal Neurons, Scaling Laws, AI & Compute, Concrete Problems in AI Safety, and Learning from Human Preferences.
Staff Software Engineer, ASE Storage Infrastructure Apple IncStaff Software Engineer, ASE Storage InfrastructureSeattle, WAMentor and grow engineers; lead through design reviews, technical writing, and hands-on collaboration with storage engine, control plane, compute platform, and storage reliability partners.10+ years of professional software development experience building infrastructure, systems, or distributed services. Within ASE, the Storage Platforms organization develops the systems that store, protect, and serve Apples data at massive scale, with a mission to deliver storage that is durable, secure, highly available, and operated with excellence.
Cyber Full-Stack Software Engineer Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu LtdCyber Full-Stack Software EngineerWA$100,400–$197,900 / year1-3+ years of experience working with relational databases and at least 1 NoSQL database, and using Git, Azure DevOps or similar tools, Docker, Agile or Scrum methods, automated testing, and continuous integration and continuous deployment pipelines. Our purpose comes through in our work with clients that enables impact and value in their organizations, as well as through our own investments, commitments, and actions across areas that help drive positive outcomes for our communities.
Sr Electricity Market Optimization Software Engineer GE Vernova IncSr Electricity Market Optimization Software EngineerBellevue, WA$127,880–$191,820 / yearGE Vernova Inc. or its affiliates (collectively or individually, "GE Vernova") sponsor certain employee benefit plans or programs GE Vernova reserves the right to terminate, amend, suspend, replace, or modify its benefit plans and programs at any time and for any reason, in its sole discretion. Desired Characteristics: Technical Expertise: Strong business knowledge of Wholesale Market Management System, especially PJM, Midwest ISO, Southwest Power Pool, ISO New England or Alberta Electric System Operator.
Senior Software Development Engineer CVS Health CorpSenior Software Development EngineerWA$83,430–$222,480 / yearCurrently we are hiring a Senior Software Development Engineer who will lead the design, development, and implementation of complex digital solutions and systems by applying deep technical expertise to architect and build scalable software applications, drive system testing and debugging strategies, mentor junior engineers, collaborate with cross-functional teams, and shape the overall technical direction and innovation of digital engineering projects. CVS Health Digital is looking for hands-on, passionate people who want to join a high energy and growing team to make a difference in customers' lives and who want to be on the forefront of digital innovation that aims to reinvent what a pharmacy and a health care company can be in the digital world.
Site Reliability Engineer SingleStoreSite Reliability EngineerSeattle, WashingtonOur platform handles streaming data ingestion, vector search, full-text search, and multi-model data types - all with high performance, petabyte-scale capacity, high user concurrency, and low latency. SingleStore is a global database company that empowers the world’s leading organizations to build and scale cutting-edge AI applications on a unified data platform that supports real-time transactions, analytics, and search.
Senior Software Engineer, Backend AppleSenior Software Engineer, BackendSeattle, WAExperience with cloud-based infrastructure (preferably AWS) and hybrid ecosystems + Experience with agentic coding tools such as Claude Code **Preferred Qualifications** + Experience shipping scalable micro services, distributed systems, web services and/or data streaming platforms at massive scale with high quality, high availability, high throughput and low latency. + Track record of working hands-on with data - exploring it, finding signals, and surfacing what stakeholders should care about + Experience with data annotation platforms is a plus + Experience with evaluation frameworks and data quality systems is a plus + Ability to discuss technical tradeoffs across the stack, including: system architecture, database design, API design and infrastructure.
Production Services Engineer - Apple Services Engineering AppleProduction Services Engineer - Apple Services EngineeringSeattle, WAProven track record in solving problems within complex distributed applications + Demonstrated expertise in analyzing client and server-side logs + Strong knowledge of SQL, relational database systems, and/or distributed SQL query engine (such as Oracle and Trino) **Preferred Qualifications** + 3+ years of experience + Experience with log analysis tools, such as Splunk, is a huge plus + High logical and critical thinking skills **Minimum Qualifications** + Bachelor's degree in Computer Science, Informatics, Information Technology, or a related field, or an equivalent combination of education and experience + Experience in one or more of the following: scripting languages, such as Python, server-side programming languages, such as Java, web development technologies, such as React.
Staff+ Software Engineer, GRC Platform AnthropicStaff+ Software Engineer, GRC PlatformSeattle, WA$320,000–$405,000 / yearThis research continues many of the directions our team worked on prior to Anthropic, including: GPT-3, Circuit-Based Interpretability, Multimodal Neurons, Scaling Laws, AI & Compute, Concrete Problems in AI Safety, and Learning from Human Preferences. Design and build data pipelines that aggregate risk, control, and asset information from across Anthropic's technology stack, solving hard integration problems like disparate schemas, inconsistent data quality, and unified views of posture.
Research Engineer, Visual Knowledge Work AnthropicResearch Engineer, Visual Knowledge WorkSeattle, WA$350,000–$850,000 / yearOn the Vision team, you'll own the end-to-end process of creating training data and RL environments targeting visual knowledge work: identifying long-horizon and vision-heavy tasks, building evals, designing rewards, and scaling data. This research continues many of the directions our team worked on prior to Anthropic, including: GPT-3, Circuit-Based Interpretability, Multimodal Neurons, Scaling Laws, AI & Compute, Concrete Problems in AI Safety, and Learning from Human Preferences.
Azure/Databricks Infrastructure Engineer Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu LtdAzure/Databricks Infrastructure EngineerSeattle, WA$116,200–$229,100 / yearOur purpose comes through in our work with clients that enables impact and value in their organizations, as well as through our own investments, commitments, and actions across areas that help drive positive outcomes for our communities. The wage range for this role takes into account the wide range of factors that are considered in making compensation decisions including but not limited to skill sets; experience and training; licensure and certifications; and other business and organizational needs.
Security Engineer, Detection & Response AnthropicSecurity Engineer, Detection & ResponseSeattle, WA$300,000–$405,000 / yearThis research continues many of the directions our team worked on prior to Anthropic, including: GPT-3, Circuit-Based Interpretability, Multimodal Neurons, Scaling Laws, AI & Compute, Concrete Problems in AI Safety, and Learning from Human Preferences. For sales roles, the range provided is the role's On Target Earnings ("OTE") range, meaning that the range includes both the sales commissions/sales bonuses target and annual base salary for the role.
Data Engineer AnthropicData EngineerSeattle, WA$320,000–$405,000 / yearExpertise in building multi-step ETL jobs, building robust data models through tooling like dbt; proficiency with workflow management platforms like Airflow and version control management tools through GitHub. This research continues many of the directions our team worked on prior to Anthropic, including: GPT-3, Circuit-Based Interpretability, Multimodal Neurons, Scaling Laws, AI & Compute, Concrete Problems in AI Safety, and Learning from Human Preferences.
Data Engineer (Kusto) Artech LLCData Engineer (Kusto)Bellevue, WA$45–$50 / hourThe ideal candidate will have strong expertise in Kusto Query Language (KQL), SQL, and data analysis , along with experience supporting production applications in logistics, operations, or supply chain environments. This role requires a proactive, analytical professional who can investigate complex data issues, collaborate with engineering teams, and ensure high data quality and application performance.
Data engineer (Data Bricks) Artech LLCData engineer (Data Bricks)Seattle, WA$60–$65 / hourAccess Control: Implement granular permissions, column-masking, and row-level filters using Data bricks unity catalog to replace DataStage's legacy security policies · Data Quality: Utilize Delta Live Tables (DLT) to build pipelines with built-in, declarative data quality expectations and monitoring. · Validation & Reconciliation: Build automated reconciliation frameworks to compare row counts, checksums, and aggregate sums between legacy DataStage outputs and new Databricks output.
Data Engineer Georgia Tek SystemsData EngineerBellevue, WADatabricks experience all compute/ETL leverages Databricks and is programmed leveraging Spark (PySpark, SparkSQL). Should be proficient in writing code in a matter that it can run repeatedly and produce the same state (we have a custom SQL Deployment framework).
Executive Support Technical Engineer Carnival Global BrandExecutive Support Technical EngineerSeattle, WA$86,500–$116,800 / yearIt also owns audio-visual and conferencing readiness for executive meetings and events, and coordinates with the Managed IT Services Provider on endpoint deployment and lifecycle management through Microsoft Endpoint Configuration Manager (SCCM/MECM). Coordinate with the Managed IT Services Provider on SCCM/MECM execution (software deployment, patching, compliance, imaging, and provisioning), validating deployment quality on executive endpoints and escalating client-health and deployment issues.
Principal - Data Engineer - Bellevue WA ( Hybrid) Georgia Tek SystemsPrincipal - Data Engineer - Bellevue WA ( Hybrid)Bellevue, WADatabricks experience – all compute/ETL leverages Databricks and is programmed leveraging Spark (PySpark, SparkSQL). • Should be proficient in writing code in a matter that it can run repeatedly and produce the same state (we have a custom SQL Deployment framework)