Kitchen Manager Texas RoadhouseKitchen ManagerBeavercreek, OhioBubba’s 33, part of the Texas Roadhouse brand family, is looking for a rockstar Kitchen Manager to oversee all Back of House operations and be responsible for purchasing, receiving, preparing, and presenting all food products in a timely manner, according to established recipes, and procedures. Directing work for Back of House employees, including setting hours and weekly schedules, and assigning tasks before, during and after open hours of the restaurant.
Maintenance Manager Crocs IncMaintenance ManagerVandalia, OHThis role owns site maintenance execution (PM/CM planning and scheduling, work order management, parts stewardship, contractor/OEM coordination), reliability improvement (RCA, defect elimination, PM optimization), and facilities/utility systems readiness to deliver high equipment availability and consistent throughput in support of Operations. The Maintenance Manager is responsible for leading the site maintenance and reliability program for a distribution center, ensuring safe, compliant, and cost-effective operation of automated and non-automated assets.
General Manager Fairfield Dayton NorthGeneral ManagerVandalia, OhioThe Hotel General Manager at the Fairfield Inn Dayton is responsible for overseeing the day-to-day operations of a select service and extended stay hotel, ensuring the highest levels of guest satisfaction, financial performance, and team engagement. Effectively manage and control all operational expenses including labor, overtime, supplies etc., enforce procurement guidelines, and seek and implement cost saving strategies.
Key Account Manager - OEM Crane Pumps & Systems PFTKey Account Manager - OEMPiqua, OhioThis role requires a proactive, entrepreneurial mindset to identify new platforms, applications, and product opportunities that align with customer needs and market trends. will be responsible for driving sales growth of pump products through strategic engagement with existing OEM integrators and the development of new OEM relationships.
Key Account Manager - OEM Crane CompanyKey Account Manager - OEMPiqua, OhioThis role requires a proactive, entrepreneurial mindset to identify new platforms, applications, and product opportunities that align with customer needs and market trends. will be responsible for driving sales growth of pump products through strategic engagement with existing OEM integrators and the development of new OEM relationships.
IT Vendor Financials & Contract Manager Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu LtdIT Vendor Financials & Contract ManagerDayton, OH$93,000–$171,000 / yearThis position requires a leader who can influence stakeholders within a matrixed organization, drive accountability with external partners, and continuously evolve vendor management capabilities to support enterprise growth and innovation. In this role, you will lead strategic IT vendor management initiatives that support the Deloitte US Firm and critical enterprise technology programs across Cyber, Product Engineering, Infrastructure, and Customer Experience.
Market Manager - Military Crane CompanyMarket Manager - MilitaryPiqua, OhioThe Military Market Manager will be responsible for driving sales growth of pump products through strategic engagement with existing OEM integrators, the development of new OEM relationships, and manage the military support team. This role requires a proactive, entrepreneurial mindset to identify new platforms, applications, and product opportunities that align with customer needs and market trends.
Senior Program Manager (Program Execution Group) Odyssey Systems Consulting Group, Ltd.Senior Program Manager (Program Execution Group)Dayton, OhioFull timeAssist in supporting the program office during Materiel Solution Analysis (MSA), Technology Maturation and Risk Reduction (TMRR), Engineering and Manufacturing Development (EMD), Production and Deployment, and Operations and Support (O&S) phases, to include all milestone activities and supporting tasks as requested by the Program Office leadership. Assist with the monitoring, reviewing, analyzing and coordination of security assistance issues concerning DoD and non-DoD agencies to ensure compliance with established policies, Letter of Request (LOR), and Letters of Offer and Acceptance (LOA), the Foreign Assistance Act, the Arms Export Control Act (AECA), International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), and other relevant legislation.
ACQUISITION TEST MANAGER - DIRECT HIRE AUTHORITY United States Air ForceACQUISITION TEST MANAGER - DIRECT HIRE AUTHORITYWright-Patterson AFB, OH$107,446–$164,301 / yearSpecialized experience is experience in planning, organizing, and coordinating test management activities as they relate to contracting, engineering, logistics, and financial management, ensuring appropriate management procedures are followed in areas such as test planning and implementation, test conduct, resource control and reporting, supporting organizations programs in resolving technical, schedule, cost, performance, and supportability issues related to test management and workforce management, reviewing policy and regulations and interfacing with senior management in the area of test management. Represents the organization and higher management echelons, and provides status information on assigned T&E projects/programs, as required, in high level meetings and discussions with senior government officials, both within and outside the Air Force and the DoD.
Market Manager - Military Crane Pumps & Systems PFTMarket Manager - MilitaryPiqua, OhioThe Military Market Manager will be responsible for driving sales growth of pump products through strategic engagement with existing OEM integrators, the development of new OEM relationships, and manage the military support team. This role requires a proactive, entrepreneurial mindset to identify new platforms, applications, and product opportunities that align with customer needs and market trends.
Senior Program Manager Odyssey Systems Consulting Group, Ltd.Senior Program ManagerDayton, OhioFull timeProvide support for creation, maintenance, and analysis of Integrated Master Plans (IMP) and Integrated Master Schedules (IMS), including development of master program schedules and conducting Schedule Risk Assessments (SRA) using Monte Carlo tools. Attend and support program reviews, audits, and working group meetings (PMRs, PDRs, CDRs, TIMs, TPWGs, TRRs), providing technical support such as meeting setup, slide advancement, and minute-taking.
Trade Compliance Manager Crane Co.Trade Compliance ManagerPiqua, OHAbility to build effective working relationships and collaborate confidently with management, cross‑functional partners, trade and government contract compliance staff, customers, U.S. Government officials, and external service providers. Provide compliance support for government audits and reviews, including interactions with oversight bodies such as the Defense Contract Audit Agency (DCAA), Defense Contract Management Agency (DCMA), and other federal auditing or surveillance entities.
Senior Subcontracts Manager University of Dayton, OhioSenior Subcontracts ManagerDayton, OhioThe Senior Subcontracts Manager reviews documentation drafted by team members including requests for proposals, draft subcontract documents, and cost analysis. The Senior Subcontracts Manager will assist the Subcontracts Team Lead with overall management of the subcontract administration function and support staff.
Strategic Accounts Manager (Aerospace/Defense) TTI IncStrategic Accounts Manager (Aerospace/Defense)Dayton, OHMaintains market awareness on competitor activities, industry tends and new concepts by reading industry periodicals, networking, attending periodic update training events and trade shows which will ensure that the manager is adding value and is current on industry knowledge to aid in making informed decisions. Develop and maintain assigned strategic account customer relationships, utilizing TTI's products and services to maximize sales, gross profit, and return on investment/assets.
Asset Reliability Manager Perrigo Company CorporateAsset Reliability ManagerCovington, OHThis role provides strategic and tactical leadership for maintenance, reliability, planning and scheduling, predictive maintenance, and continuous improvement initiatives to ensure the safe, reliable, and efficient operation of our Ohio infant formula manufacturing assets. This position serves as a key partner to Operations, Quality, Engineering, and EHS teams while leading a team of approximately 15 maintenance professionals including supervisors, planners, schedulers, lead technicians, and maintenance technicians.
Manager Supplier Quality CopelandManager Supplier QualitySidney, OhioRemoteBest-in-class engineering, design and manufacturing combined with category-leading brands in compression, controls, software and monitoring solutions result in next-generation climate technology that is built for the needs of the world ahead. . As a Manager of Supplier Quality you will manage a group of Supplier Quality Engineers (SQEs), Analysts and/or Admins to proactively assure the quality of supplied components within that group’s assigned commodities and responsibilities.
Senior Construction Project Manager Otterbein SeniorLifeSenior Construction Project ManagerSpringboro, OHWe offer different lifestyle options for seniors through independent living, assisted living, skilled nursing, rehab, memory support, respite care, in-home care, and hospice services. You will be engaged in new construction and major renovations, including procurement of Architectural and Engineering services, Construction Management firms and Otterbein held contractors and consultants.
NewRestaurant General Manager Dibella's Old Fashioned Submarines LLCRestaurant General ManagerDayton, OHFor this reason, we look to hire Restaurant General Managers with previous restaurant experience who are, fun yet firm when necessary, up-beat, and are leaders that motivate others. As a Restaurant General Manager, you set the example of excellent, friendly, and upbeat customer service, and lead the crew.
Associate Capital Project Manager - Infrastructure Delivery The AES CorpAssociate Capital Project Manager - Infrastructure DeliveryDayton, OHInfrastructure Delivery (Project Manager I) Location: Dayton, OH (Service Building) Work Model: Primarily in‑person About the Role The Associate Capital Project Manager role is designed for early‑career professionals who want hands‑on exposure to large‑scale utility and infrastructure projects. AES is proudly ranked #1 globally in renewable energy sales to corporations, and with $12.7B in revenues in 2023, we have the resources and expertise to make a significant impact as we provide electricity to 25 million customers worldwide.
Sr. Mgr, Supply Chain SilfexSr. Mgr, Supply ChainSpringfield, OhioDevelop and maintain a working knowledge of the Silfex Quality Management System and properly apply Quality Procedures and Operating Procedures as appropriate Follow all company safety policies and report any unsafe conditions to Manufacturing Manager, EHS Manager, and/ or Director of Manufacturing. Silfex Inc., A Lam Research Company is the leading provider of precision silicon components used to make and operate semiconductor tools, which enable the trillion-dollar global electronics industry.
Assistant Manager, Logistics Honda Motor Co LtdAssistant Manager, LogisticsTroy, OHLogistics Planning supports AHM Parts Centers and Hubs with storage optimization, process and system improvements, efficiency gains, future storage capacity planning, and capital expenditure planning to maintain sufficient network capacity while minimizing cost. The Assistant Manager is also responsible for Hub budget planning, partnering with 3PLs to establish volume forecasts, efficiency targets, labor assumptions, and cost-per-unit projections for outsourced hub operations.
Acquisition Program Manager (Evergreen) Odyssey Systems Consulting Group, Ltd.Acquisition Program Manager (Evergreen)Dayton, OhioFull timeAssist the program office in complying with tasks related to the Joint Capabilities Integration and Development System (JCIDS), Concepts of Operation (CONOPS), architectural views, security accreditations and certifications, Selected Acquisition Reports (SAR), Defense Acquisition Information Retrieval (DAMIR), System Metric and Reporting Tool (SMART), security administration, Monthly Acquisition Reports (MAR), Probability of Program Success (POPS), Defense Acquisition Executive Summary (DAES), Program Management Agreements (PMA), Acquisition Program Baseline (APB), and Capabilities Review and Risk Assessment (CRRA) initiation and updates. Our Program Managers support the government with planning, researching, analyzing and assessing the effectiveness, efficiency, and productivity of weapons systems and associated equipment acquisitions (development, production and deployment), and formulate plans and recommend strategies to meet cost, schedule, and performance objectives.
Program Manager, Principal FMS AstrionProgram Manager, Principal FMSDayton / Wright-Patterson AFB, OhioAssist with the development of documents, such as, but not limited to, Memorandum of Agreements (MOAs), Memorandum of Understandings (MOUs), Statements of Objective (SOOs), PWSs, Statements of Work (SOWs), Requests for Proposal (RFP), Mission Needs Statements, Operational Requirements Documents (ORD), Initial Capabilities Documents (ICD), Capability Development Documents (CDD), Capability Production Documents (CPD), Milestone Documentation, Analysis of Alternatives (AoA), and Rapid Fielding Requirements Documents (RFRD). Support key acquisition events and reviews as needed, such as: System Requirements Reviews (SRR), Preliminary Design Reviews (PDR), Critical Design Reviews (CDR), Test Readiness Reviews (TRR), Technical Coordination Meetings (TCM), Functional Configuration Audits (FCA), Physical Configuration Audits (PCA), Production Readiness Reviews (PRR), milestone documentation development, and others as applicable.
Sales Account Mgr III - EPM Parker Hannifin CorpSales Account Mgr III - EPMDayton, OHThe Account Manager collaborates in the consistent implementation and improvement of Customer Engagement Processes through proactive identification of needs and improvements in coordination with the customer service, logistics, finance, Technology and Technical Service departments in Parker Lord. Incumbent is responsible for managing existing sales and customers, being responsible for the development and growth of new and existing relationships at all levels of the specified customer's organization including but not limiting to Supply Chain, Program Management and Technology/ Technical Leadership.
Environmental Services Department Manager Healthcare Services Group IncEnvironmental Services Department ManagerSpringfield, OHJoin Healthcare Services Group (HCSG) as an Account Manager, leading housekeeping, laundry, and floor care teams in a long-term care facility. If you''re looking for a role where you can lead with passion, drive positive change, and be part of a supportive and dedicated team, apply now and start making a difference at HCSG!
["Low Voltage Estimator/Project manager","Low Voltage Estimator/Project manager"] AREA ENERGY & ELECTRIC["Low Voltage Estimator/Project manager","Low Voltage Estimator/Project manager"]Sidney$85,000–$120,000 / yearThis position is ideal for a professional with extensive low-voltage experience who can manage multiple projects, coordinate with internal teams and external partners, and ensure projects are completed on time, within budget, and to specification. We value experienced professionals, invest in our people, and offer opportunities for long-term career growth-both in the field and in support roles that keep our projects running efficiently.
Asset Reliability Manager Perrigo Co PlcAsset Reliability ManagerCovington, OHThis role provides strategic and tactical leadership for maintenance, reliability, planning and scheduling, predictive maintenance, and continuous improvement initiatives to ensure the safe, reliable, and efficient operation of our Ohio infant formula manufacturing assets. This position serves as a key partner to Operations, Quality, Engineering, and EHS teams while leading a team of approximately 15 maintenance professionals including supervisors, planners, schedulers, lead technicians, and maintenance technicians.
Manager Supplier Quality Copeland Controls SrlManager Supplier QualitySidney, OHRemoteBest-in-class engineering, design and manufacturing combined with category-leading brands in compression, controls, software and monitoring solutions result in next-generation climate technology that is built for the needs of the world ahead. As a Manager of Supplier Quality you will manage a group of Supplier Quality Engineers (SQEs), Analysts and/or Admins to proactively assure the quality of supplied components within that group's assigned commodities and responsibilities.
Project Manager American Trademark Construction ServicesProject ManagerDayton, OhioThe project manager is the on-site supervisor, working collaboratively with the project team and owner to successfully deliver a quality project that exceeds all expectations. ATCS has concentrated its efforts on providing complete turn-key construction services in design/build, general contracting, and construction management.
Restaurant General Manager Shake ShackRestaurant General ManagerEast Liberty, OHBeginning as a hot dog cart in New York City's Madison Square Park, Shake Shack was created by Danny Meyer, Founder and CEO of Union Square Hospitality Group and best-selling author of Setting the Table. Working knowledge of restaurant operations, including personnel management, food planning and preparation, purchasing, sanitation and health codes, and security.
NewData Center Project Manager Michael Page InternationalData Center Project ManagerJeffersonville, Ohio$120,000–$150,000 / yearFull timeData Center Project ManagerLead highly visible, mission-critical data center projectsGain exposure to cutting-edge hyperscale and mission-critical facilitiesAbout Our ClientOur client is a nationally recognized general contractor and construction management firm known for delivering complex commercial, industrial, healthcare, and mission-critical facilities. The Successful ApplicantBachelor's degree in Construction Management, Engineering, or related field.5+ years of project management experience in commercial construction.
["Sales Account Mgr III - EPM","Sales Account Mgr III - EPM"] Parker["Sales Account Mgr III - EPM","Sales Account Mgr III - EPM"]DaytonIncumbent is responsible for managing existing sales and customers, being responsible for the development and growth of new and existing relationships at all levels of the specified customer's organization including but not limiting to Supply Chain, Program Management and Technology/Technical Leadership. The Account Manager collaborates in the consistent implementation and improvement of Customer Engagement Processes through proactive identification of needs and improvements in coordination with the customer service, logistics, finance, Technology and Technical Service departments in Parker Lord.
Supply Chain Business Manager Silfex IncSupply Chain Business ManagerSpringfield, OHJob Description: Essential Function: Managing all activities (intradepartmental and cross-functional) related to the acquisition of equipment, materials, products and services for Silfex beginning with the definition of requirements through delivery and payment. Silfex Inc., A Lam Research Company is the leading provider of precision silicon components used to make and operate semiconductor tools, which enable the trillion-dollar global electronics industry.
Equipment Engineering Manager Snyder Executive SearchEquipment Engineering ManagerDayton, OHA high-growth Tier 1 automotive supplier in the Dayton, Ohio area is seeking an Equipment Engineering Manager to lead equipment strategy, new model launch support, and advanced manufacturing system development. The Equipment Engineering Manager will lead a capable technical team and play a key role in making sure the company’s equipment, processes, and launch plans are ready to support continued growth.
Lead Logistics Manager Leidos Holdings IncLead Logistics ManagerBeavercreek, OH$82,550–$149,225 / yearThe selected candidate will serve as the Lead Logistics Manager responsible for overseeing logistics operations, supply chain management, asset accountability, transportation coordination, inventory management, and lifecycle sustainment activities supporting mission-critical operations. This position will lead logistics planning and execution efforts across multiple operational locations while serving as the primary logistics interface between government customers, program leadership, subcontractors, and support personnel.
Program Manager KBR IncProgram ManagerOHAssist USG Program Managers and Senior Military Leader with acquisition planning, documentation, and milestone decision support across programs enabling development and fielding of autonomous system solutions. Minimum 15 years of experience in acquisition or program management roles with a focus on schedule, cost, and performance and proven track record in managing and delivery complex, strategic projects.
Assistant Store Manager O'Reilly Auto EnterprisesAssistant Store ManagerHuber Heights, OhioPerform all store opening/closing duties, including performing day end procedures, verifying/securing money/deposits according to company policy, preparing bank deposits as needed, ensuring all night security lights are on, locking doors and securing building, arming/disarming security alarms, and checking/securing/locking delivery vehicle(s) parked in a secure designated area. Ensure retail customer returns and exchanges are processed in an efficient and friendly manner, refunds are issued accurately using the correct payment methods, and returned merchandise is processed or staged in the returns area correctly.
Senior Program Manager (F-15) Axient LLCSenior Program Manager (F-15)Dayton, OHAssist with the development of documents, such as, but not limited to, Memorandum of Agreements (MOAs), Memorandum of Understandings (MOUs), Statements of Objective (SOOs), PWSs, Statements of Work (SOWs), Requests for Proposal (RFP), Mission Needs Statements, Operational Requirements Documents (ORD), Initial Capabilities Documents (ICD), Capability Development Documents (CDD), Capability Production Documents (CPD), Milestone Documentation, Analysis of Alternatives (AoA), and Rapid Fielding Requirements Documents (RFRD). Support key acquisition events and reviews as needed, such as: System Requirements Reviews (SRR), Preliminary Design Reviews (PDR), Critical Design Reviews (CDR), Test Readiness Reviews (TRR), Technical Coordination Meetings (TCM), Functional Configuration Audits (FCA), Physical Configuration Audits (PCA), Production Readiness Reviews (PRR), milestone documentation development, and others as applicable.
Logistics Manager Axient LLCLogistics ManagerDayton, OHWork on logistics and maintainability programs and with logistics and maintenance control organizations on issues such as technical evaluation and identification of weapon systems logistics requirements and resources, iImplementation of logistics support and maintainability programs or plans and budgetary or financial analysis and control; Assist with technical analyses, planning and execution and assist the Government in review of technical specifications and documentation in support of reliability, maintainability, quality, supportability, and interoperability efforts to facilitate and update sustainment issues identified as related to the LCSP and the integrated support plan. Provide support with the Defense Transportation System, the Supply Discrepancy Report, and Quality Deficiency Report (DR) processes; Support all logistics tasks and requirements in direct support of the OFP series and other assigned F-15 programs ensuring all logistics support aspects of the program are identified.
Senior Commodity Manager CopelandSenior Commodity ManagerSidney, OhioBest-in-class engineering, design and manufacturing combined with category-leading brands in compression, controls, software and monitoring solutions result in next-generation climate technology that is built for the needs of the world ahead. . Strategies developed will support supply chain initiatives which include: supplier development, supplier capacity increases, cost containment, regionalization, trade working capital improvement, timely delivery, and quality.
Strategic Program Manager FictivStrategic Program ManagerDayton, OH$105,000–$150,000 / yearActing as a trusted advisor, you'll bring deep expertise in engineering, operations, quality, and logistics to guide customers through every stage — from New Product Development (NPD) and New Product Introduction (NPI) through mass production. Beyond program execution, you'll play an active role in continuous improvement — identifying opportunities to refine internal processes and drive operational enhancements that make MISUMI Americas an even stronger partner for its customers.
Senior Customer Success Manager ClioSenior Customer Success ManagerLondon, OH$75,800–$102,600 / yearEnablement & Change Management Designing and delivering senior-level enablement programmes that accelerate adoption, build internal champions, and embed the platform into the firm's operating model, going beyond feature training to drive genuine organisational change. Strategic Account Planning & Value Delivery Developing and maintaining comprehensive account plans that map client business objectives to platform capability, define measurable success criteria, and outline a clear roadmap for value realisation.
Research Project Manager CopelandResearch Project ManagerSidney, OhioBest-in-class engineering, design and manufacturing combined with category-leading brands in compression, controls, software and monitoring solutions result in next-generation climate technology that is built for the needs of the world ahead. . This role drives innovation by acting as a liaison between the various stakeholders to uncover new opportunities and developing them into research projects with clear scopes and established goals.
Program Manager, Senior (F-15) Axient LLCProgram Manager, Senior (F-15)Dayton, OHThe F-15 Division is responsible for management and professional services, engineering and technical services, and studies, analyses and evaluations to accomplish the unit's mission to design, develop, integrate, test, produce, deploy, modernize, sustain and support U.S. and FMS F-15 fighter aircraft weapon systems and subsystems. Manage program support activities such as action-item tracking, AF Form 1067 modification proposals, self-assessment/inspection checklists, meeting minutes, corrective actions, and OFP development risk, cost, schedule, and performance.
Branch Manager OneMain (Formerly Springleaf & OneMain Financials).Branch ManagerSpringfield, OH$47,100–$65,750 / yearIn our more than 1,300 community branches and across the U.S., team members help millions of customers solve critical financial needs, including debt consolidation, home and auto repairs, medical procedures and extending household budgets. Sales, Retail, Loan Sales, Customer Service, Customer Care, Business Development, Financial Sales, Management Development, Finance, Full-time, Career, Benefits, Customer Experience, Financial Representative, Credit, Leadership.
NewOperations Manager (Weekend Days, Fri-Sun) Crane Worldwide LogisticsOperations Manager (Weekend Days, Fri-Sun)West Jefferson, OHPlan and monitor daily staffing schedules and adjust accordingly to ensure adequate staffing levels that support operational demands and business objectives. Maximize profitability through superior client service, effective and prompt communications and follow-up on all pending matters with the client.
Procurement Manager, Packaging The Scotts Miracle-Gro CoProcurement Manager, PackagingMarysville, OH$125,000–$147,100 / yearBe part of something bigger by joining one of our Employee Resource Groups focusing on diversity and inclusion, family, education and sustainability: Scotts Women's Network, Scotts Black Employees' Network, Scotts Veterans Network, Scotts Young Professionals, Scotts Pride Network (GroPride), Scotts Associates for a Greener Earth (SAGE), Scotts Family TREE and our Associate Boards. In the absence of a signed Master Service Agreement, and specific approval to submit resumes to an approved requisition, the Scotts Miracle-Gro company will not consider or approve payment regarding recruiter fees or referral compensations.
Project Manager I, Heavy Industrial Construction Graycor IncProject Manager I, Heavy Industrial ConstructionMiddletown, OHTo Be Successful in this Role, You Will Need: A minimum of seven (7) years of relevant heavy industrial construction operations experience within the steel and metal producing industries. Openly and confidently communicate with all other parties involved with the project, establishing trust and rapport with owners, engineers, subcontractors, and local union officials.
Environmental Services - Manager in Training Healthcare Services Group, Inc.Environmental Services - Manager in TrainingDAYTON, OhioOverview: Join Healthcare Services Group (HCSG) as an Environmental Services Manager in Training, where you will learn to manage your own account and oversee housekeeping, laundry, and floor care operations at a long-term care facility. Benefits Link: Click here for more benefits information . or copy this link : https://go-internal.hcsgcorp.com/l/1036773/2025-07-02/5xbpsq/1036773/17514637576MrQym5A/Employee_Benefits_for_Job_Descriptions__7_.pdf.
Environmental Services Manager in Training Healthcare Services Group IncEnvironmental Services Manager in TrainingDAYTON, OHJoin Healthcare Services Group (HCSG) as an Environmental Services Manager in Training, where you will learn to manage your own account and oversee housekeeping, laundry, and floor care operations at a long-term care facility. If you''re looking for an opportunity to grow your career in environmental services management and be part of a supportive and dedicated team, apply now and start making a difference at HCSG!