NewConstruction Project Manager – Commercial | Detroit, MI JobotConstruction Project Manager – Commercial | Detroit, MIDetroit, MI$85,000–$110,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. Our team delivers high-quality commercial and specialty construction projects by combining strong field execution, disciplined project management, and a relationship-first approach with clients and trade partners.
ReBath - Construction Project Manager Bathworks IncReBath - Construction Project ManagerTroy, MIFull timeWe are looking for a leader who can drive accountability, resolve issues efficiently, communicate directly with customers, and keep projects moving without becoming the default dumping ground for unresolved departmental problems. We are seeking a strong, customer-focused Construction Project Manager to lead cross-functional coordination between Sales, Contract Processing, Job Scoping, and Production .
NewTechnical Program Manager StefaniniTechnical Program ManagerDearborn, MI$61–$66 / hourTemporaryContractorOur presence is in countries like the Americas, Europe, Africa, and Asia, and more than four hundred clients across a broad spectrum of markets, including financial services, manufacturing, telecommunications, chemical services, technology, public sector, and utilities. We are seeking an experienced Automotive Software Test Program Manager to lead cross-functional planning, test execution, hardware/software configuration, defect management, and Agile program delivery.
NewConstruction Project Manager JobotConstruction Project ManagerDetroit, MI$95,000–$135,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. Join a values‑driven builder where project managers are trusted to lead marquee projects, influence outcomes, and grow their careers with a company investing heavily in people and process.
NewSenior Project Manager - Construction - Multifamily JobotSenior Project Manager - Construction - MultifamilyDetroit, MI$120,000–$150,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. As we provide our people with the very best, we continue to gain new business and have one of the highest percentages for repeat business, allowing them to expand outside of Detroit.
NewGeneral Manager (MEP) JobotGeneral Manager (MEP)Detroit, MI$150,000–$225,000 / year10+ years of progressive leadership experience within HVAC, mechanical contracting, construction services, MEP services, building services, or related industries. We are a private equity-backed mechanical services platform focused on building market-leading HVAC, plumbing, and electrical businesses across the United States.
IT Manager Jars CannabisIT ManagerTroy, MI$70,000–$80,000 / yearFull timeThe IT Manager spends most of their time on systems ownership, infrastructure projects, vendor management, and building the operational processes the IT department runs on. Impact means delivering results that matter - improving experiences, driving progress, and adding real value for our people, customers, and communities.
NewConstruction Project Manager (Multifamily) JobotConstruction Project Manager (Multifamily)Detroit, MI$100,000–$155,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. The ideal candidate will have a strong background in construction management, excellent leadership skills, and a proven track record of successfully delivering projects on time and within budget.
NewConstruction Project Manager (Wastewater/Water Treatment) JobotConstruction Project Manager (Wastewater/Water Treatment)Detroit, MI$100,000–$150,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. We are seeking a highly motivated and experienced Project Manager to lead complex water and wastewater treatment construction projects across the Detroit area.
NewSenior Project Manager (General Contractor) JobotSenior Project Manager (General Contractor)Detroit, MI$100,000–$150,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. If you are a highly motivated and experienced Senior Project Manager looking for an exciting new challenge, we encourage you to apply today, and your resume will be reviewed within 48 hours**.
NewProject Manager - Construction - Rochester JobotProject Manager - Construction - RochesterRochester, MI$100,000–$140,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. For over 80 years, our construction company has built a reputation for excellence across a wide range of markets, from commercial and industrial to healthcare, education, and beyond.
NewAssistant Project Manager JobotAssistant Project ManagerSterling Heights, MI$90,000–$115,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. At the core of this company is its electrical contracting capabilities, specializing in commercial, healthcare, hospitality, public works, and high-rise residential segments.
NewConstruction Assistant Project Manager JobotConstruction Assistant Project ManagerClinton Township, MI$85,000–$105,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. Step into a growth-focused role where you’ll gain hands-on experience managing exciting projects while working alongside a collaborative team that’s building the future of Metro Detroit.
NewHeavy Civil Construction Project Manager JobotHeavy Civil Construction Project ManagerNorthville, MI$120,000–$140,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. By applying for this job, you agree to receive calls, AI-generated calls, text messages, or emails from Jobot, and/or its agents and contracted partners.
NewProject Manager – Electronic Security Systems JobotProject Manager – Electronic Security SystemsDetroit, MI$90,000–$120,000 / yearIn this role, you'll lead projects from kickoff through closeout, coordinating field teams, subcontractors, vendors, and customers to ensure high-quality installations are completed safely, on schedule, and within budget. Information collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal.
NewElectrical Project Manager JobotElectrical Project ManagerSterling Heights, MI$120,000–$180,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. Lead and oversee day-to-day design (where applicable) and construction management of significant elements of IBMS and electrical interface works on projects, including procurement, installation, and commissioning.
NewProject Manager (Civil) JobotProject Manager (Civil)Detroit, MI$100,000–$150,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. Our client is a premier construction firm with a strong reputation for delivering high-quality concrete, steel, civil, and general contracting projects across Michigan.
NewCivil Project Manager - GREAT Salary and Bonus Package! JobotCivil Project Manager - GREAT Salary and Bonus Package!Troy, MI$130,000–$160,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. Your combination of experience, determination, and ability to think critically enables you to develop well-planned, highly productive, and efficient project operations.
NewDesign-Build Senior Project Manager (Construction) JobotDesign-Build Senior Project Manager (Construction)Farmington Hills, MI$120,000–$160,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. This is an opportunity to advance your career with a company that values its employees and offers outstanding benefits, including: Base salary ranging from $120,000 to $160,000 based on market conditions and experience.
NewTechnical Delivery Manager (Automation) - Detroit, MI Digital Technology SolutionsTechnical Delivery Manager (Automation) - Detroit, MIRomulus, MIContractorFull timeMay be responsible for single technical projects of medium to high complexity, a small technical program, or a group of smaller, unrelated technical projects; manages interdependencies between projects and outside delivery efforts. Candidates who have worked in strategy, business operations, management consulting, product organizations, transformation initiatives, or automation-enabled process improvement efforts will be particularly successful.
NewProject Manager (Multifamily Projects) JobotProject Manager (Multifamily Projects)Beverly Hills, MI$100,000–$170,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. The successful candidate will have a bachelor's degree in construction management, engineering, or a related field, along with a minimum of 5 years of experience in multifamily construction project management.
NewConstruction Project Manager (Self-Perform Concrete) JobotConstruction Project Manager (Self-Perform Concrete)Detroit, MI$100,000–$150,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. This Macomb-based GC and self-perform powerhouse delivers some of the region’s most complex structural concrete and commercial building projects.
NewIndustrial Project Manager - Construction JobotIndustrial Project Manager - ConstructionAuburn Hills, MI$100,000–$125,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. You’ll gain exposure to complex commercial projects, work closely with experienced leadership, and build a long‑term career with a contractor that values execution, accountability, and internal growth.
NewConcrete Project Manager - Construction JobotConcrete Project Manager - ConstructionDetroit, MI$100,000–$125,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. You’ll gain exposure to complex commercial projects, work closely with experienced leadership, and build a long‑term career with a contractor that values execution, accountability, and internal growth.
NewSenior Manager, Tax JobotSenior Manager, TaxNorthville, MI$120,000–$170,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. We are seeking a Senior Tax Manager, you will work directly with clients and wealth management teams to review and implement tax strategies for clients that include a coordinated financial strategy that aligns with each client’s goals and values.
NewDeveloper/Builder Project Manager (Multifamily) JobotDeveloper/Builder Project Manager (Multifamily)Harper Woods, MI$100,000–$140,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. This role offers an exciting opportunity to work on diverse projects, from residential developments to commercial complexes, with a competitive salary range of $100,000 to $145,000, depending on experience.
NewSafety Manager JobotSafety ManagerDetroit, MI$70,000–$85,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. They are looking to add a Safety Manager to their team who will be instrumental in fostering and ensuring a safe working environment for our employees, subcontractors, and partners while promoting a culture of accountability and continuous improvement.
NewConstruction Project Manager (Education Projects) JobotConstruction Project Manager (Education Projects)Pontiac, MI$100,000–$150,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. Join a reputable construction firm with a proven track record of excellence in building impactful projects while fostering professional growth and a team-oriented culture.
BU INDUSTRIAL AUTOMATION MANAGER - BATTERY OP MobilityBU INDUSTRIAL AUTOMATION MANAGER - BATTERYTroy, MIToday, OPmobility develops technological solutions across four areas of expertise: exterior and lighting systems, the integration of complex modules, technologies related to energy storage, hydrogen and electrification, and a division dedicated to the development of embedded software and digital solutions. We are committed to building inclusive teams, promoting diversity and equality, and ensuring that every application is considered fairly - because the future of mobility is built by diverse perspectives, bold ideas, and people who dare to move forward.
NewAccount Manager – Specialty Pharmacy (Infusion Therapies) JobotAccount Manager – Specialty Pharmacy (Infusion Therapies)Ann Arbor, MI$95,000–$125,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. This role focuses on building strong provider relationships, generating qualified new patient starts, and serving as a trusted liaison between physicians, clinical stakeholders, and our infusion care teams.
NewTax Manager ( Hybrid ) JobotTax Manager ( Hybrid )Ann Arbor, MI$110,000–$160,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. We are working with a well-established and growing CPA firm in Michigan that provides comprehensive accounting, tax, and advisory services to closely held businesses and high-net-worth individuals.
Project Manager DCS CorporationProject ManagerSterling Heights, MIA Master's Degree in a specialized field* plus a minimum of 6 years of applicable experience or, a Bachelor's Degree in the specialized field* plus 8 years of applicable experience, or a Associates Degree with 10 years, or a High School Diploma/GED with 16 years in any field with a minimum of 9 years of specialized experience. Experience with DoD Acquisitions, managing multiple engineering change proposals, modification work orders and procurement work directives that are associated with combat system survivability, lethality, cab, tracked chassis and auxiliary systems.
NewTax Manager JobotTax ManagerLake Angelus, MI$120,000–$160,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. They pride themselves on being more than just a CPA firm: they position themselves as trusted business advisors, helping clients plan, grow, and navigate complex financial and tax challenges, while offering personalized service and strategic insight.
NewBranch Manager JobotBranch ManagerDetroit, MI$100,000–$150,000 / yearThe company specializes in a comprehensive range of logistics solutions, including domestic and international freight forwarding, truck and rail brokerage, customs services, warehousing, order fulfillment, and inventory management. Information collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal.
NewRemote Tax Manager JobotRemote Tax ManagerDetroit, MIRemote$140,000–$170,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. The ideal candidate will have a strong background in public accounting, with a focus on complex tax returns for S Corp and Partnerships and their HNW owners.
NewREMOTE Tax Manager (International Tax) - Top 100 firm JobotREMOTE Tax Manager (International Tax) - Top 100 firmNovi, MIRemote$95,000–$150,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. We tap into a wide range of services — tax, accounting, data analytics, operations, human capital management, technology, wealth management and more — to deliver solutions that take you and your organization to the next level, however you define it.
NewGeneral Manager - 873 Panera BreadGeneral Manager - 873Woodhaven, MIBe an ambassador of our Guiding Values and Behaviors by making people smile, learning and growing together, finding solutions and taking initiative, working (and winning) as a team, having fun and celebrating success, and seeing the best in others! Own all aspects of leading, the bakery-cafe team include planning and managing staffing needs, scheduling, people development, career development, performance management, training, and succession planning.
NewAssistant General Manager Panera BreadAssistant General ManagerShelby Township, MIBe an ambassador of our Guiding Values and Behaviors by making people smile, learning and growing together, finding solutions and taking initiative, working (and winning) as a team, having fun and celebrating success, and seeing the best in others! You’ll inspire and celebrate your team, partner with your General Manager in overseeing operations, delight guests every day, and grow the business- while taking ownership on hiring, training, and development at your location.
NewTeam Manager Panera BreadTeam ManagerCanton, MIBe an ambassador of our Guiding Values and Behaviors by making people smile, learning and growing together, finding solutions and taking initiative, working (and winning) as a team, having fun and celebrating success, and seeing the best in others! Lead, manager and develop team members by coaching, inspiring, and motivating them to exceed goals in sales, speed, order accuracy, and guest experience – and celebrate their achievements along the way.
Engineering Program Manager HTC Global Services IncEngineering Program ManagerDearborn, MIFull timeThis role requires someone who can bring clarity to complex programs, establish delivery processes, manage priorities, and ensure successful execution while partnering closely with engineering, product, and program leadership. Build strong partnerships across engineering, product, design, systems, testing, operations, quality, release management, and other cross-functional teams.
NewRetail Operations Manager PetSmartRetail Operations ManagerRochester Hills, MIAccountable for, provides oversight, and validates proper execution of inventory management and pricing processes, including, but not limited to, inventory accuracy, receiving, stocking/re-stocking, inventory counts (live and non-live), product rotations and planner/planogram sets in a timely and organized manner. Facilitates the associate experience and supports associate development; including but not limited to ensuring associates are appropriately trained across the store, onboarding, associate reviews, labor management, mentoring, succession planning, and coaching for accountability.
NewHuman Resources Manager TTECHuman Resources ManagerDearborn, MIThis position is responsible for strategy development in conjunction with the HR Director and an HR SME for the site, providing strategic direction to all functional areas as it relates to people and the HR function. Percepta requires all employees hired in the United States to successfully pass a background check and depending on location and client program a drug test, as a condition of employment.
Plant HR Manager - Toledo, OH OP MobilityPlant HR Manager - Toledo, OHTroy, MIInnovation-driven since its creation, the Group develops and produces intelligent exterior systems, customized complex modules, lighting systems, clean energy systems and electrification solutions for all mobility companies. As the Site HR Manager for our new Toledo, OH location, you will lead the full Human Resources function and play a critical role in launching, shaping, and supporting the site’s people strategy.
PLANT INJECTION AREA MANAGER OP MobilityPLANT INJECTION AREA MANAGERTroy, MIToday, OPmobility develops technological solutions across four areas of expertise: exterior and lighting systems, the integration of complex modules, technologies related to energy storage, hydrogen and electrification, and a division dedicated to the development of embedded software and digital solutions. We are committed to building inclusive teams, promoting diversity and equality, and ensuring that every application is considered fairly - because the future of mobility is built by diverse perspectives, bold ideas, and people who dare to move forward.
Safety Systems Manager DCS CorporationSafety Systems ManagerSterling Heights, MIDevelop and implement integrated system safety management programs covering all lifecycle phases from concept through disposal, including requirements definition, documentation, testing, and evaluation. Establish and manage key safety program elements such as System Safety Management Plans, Hazard Tracking Systems, and System Safety Working Groups.
NewPreconstruction Manager/Estimator (Education) JobotPreconstruction Manager/Estimator (Education)Pontiac, MI$100,000–$150,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. Join a reputable construction firm with a proven track record of excellence in building impactful projects while fostering professional growth and a team-oriented culture.
Account Manager OP MobilityAccount ManagerTroy, MIToday, OPmobility develops technological solutions across four areas of expertise: exterior and lighting systems, the integration of complex modules, technologies related to energy storage, hydrogen and electrification, and a division dedicated to the development of embedded software and digital solutions. We are committed to building inclusive teams, promoting diversity and equality, and ensuring that every application is considered fairly - because the future of mobility is built by diverse perspectives, bold ideas, and people who dare to move forward.
Project Administrator ShaininProject AdministratorNorthville, MI$44,000–$54,000 / yearFull timeThis role works closely with project managers, finance team, sales operations, and consultants to help ensure projects, billing activities, reporting, and operational processes run smoothly. The Project Administrator (internal title of "Client Operations Assistant (Americas)") supports project administration and client operations activities across North, Central and South America.
NewProject Manager MV TransportationProject ManagerDetroit, MI$99,000–$110,000Responsibilities: MV Transportation is seeking an Project Manager will provide support in the daily operations, leadership and direction of the team and ensure delivery of annual business plans. Where permissible under applicable state and local law, applicants may be subject to a pre-employment drug test and background check after receiving a conditional offer of employment.
NewAssistant Kitchen Manager Grant's Pizza HouseAssistant Kitchen ManagerRochester, MI$18–$20 / hourThe best people in this work notice what most others miss the things that aren t actually clean when you look behind them, small bits of drift in how food is being made, the moment in a slow night when you could reset the line for tomorrow instead of just riding it out. If you've put in real time running shifts, handling cash, and keeping a crew moving on a busy night, and you re looking for a stable, close-to-home job where your experience is recognized and your judgment is trusted, this is worth reading.